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Where Eventing Went and How to Get It Back: Some Guy's Take

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Katie's article "Where Have All The Good Times Gone" has generated a great deal of discussion here on Eventing Nation and elsewhere.  In our very first post ever, I explained that I wanted Eventing Nation to be a forum for eventing's great thinkers and ideas, and I want to thank Katie and everyone who has participated in this ongoing discussion for helping EN to be just that.

Eventers everywhere seem frustrated and concerned, even angry.  This frustration doesn't have one origin or cause, but it has built up gradually over time as people have watched novice riders wheeling their courses, as we have seen professionals running their top horses at as many four-stars as possible until they break down (and then at two more), and as some imported super-mover is ridden in near hyperflexion and extended trot around a training test and scores a 15.  

As I read Katie's article, and the comments here and on the COTH thread (which the great Denny started), I noticed that a lot of the frustration comes from situations where eventing has been turned against itself through forces well beyond the control of us eventers. Consider some of the conflicts and resulting choices that have made eventing what it is today:

(1) One such conflict arises from the sacrifice of the upper-level long format to appease the Olympics.  As Katie noted, there are multiple opinions and explanations as for how the long format CCI's faded, and some reasons are certainly better than others, but according to several people very high on the food chain, the ultimate reality was either lose the long format or lose the Olympics.  

(2) Once the long format departed, our sport was once again faced with a conflict.  Without the extreme endurance component to XC, we had to choose between losing XC as a competitive factor, essentially making eventing a combined test, or dramatically cranking up the technicality of the cross-country.

(3) Then, since the upper level courses became more technical, we were faced with yet another tough choice between ratcheting up the technicality of the lower level courses or allowing a massive disconnect to form between the levels.

As a result of these conflicts, eventing stayed in the Olympics, made four-stars more technical, and then started putting corners on novice courses.  I'm not sure that I disagree with any of those choices made at each of the above conflicts, but I'm uneasy when I look at where we ended up.


Another such line of conflicts is leading to a similarly unsettling result:

(1) It starts with the notion that we want to grow eventing and spread our beloved sport, and we'd like to see better mainstream media coverage and recognition.  I'm the kind of person who would like to see a great XC ride in the SportsCenter Top 10 someday.  The professional riders want better prize money at competitions, and better sponsorships, and, considering that Kobe makes more in about 3 preseason games than the Rolex Grand Slam pays, who can blame them?  Heck, with entry fees as high as they are these days, who can blame anyone for wanting prize money at events?

(2) But, as prize money, media coverage, and sponsorship money grows, the incentive to win increases and horsemanship starts to become costly.  Riders start blasting around horse trials at Mach 10 to score year-end award points.  Furthermore, as I watched them hand out checks to the top 10 riders at The Fork, I wondered briefly if $1,000 dollars was enough to make anyone run faster this weekend than they should have to prepare for Rolex.  We offer $350,000 for winning three four-stars in a row and then get appalled when a rider does everything possible to win, including run his amazing horse off its legs.  The dark secret of our sport is that horsemanship and winning sometimes conflict, and for every $1 more in incentives you offer to win, you occasionally make good horsemanship that much more expensive. 

So, as we look back on the choices we have made, we see a vibrant, growing, more popular than ever, more profitable than ever sport, and yet we also see people making absurdly stupid decisions for their horses, and we watch those decisions trickle down to their students.  Perhaps I should have mentioned at the beginning that this is not a happy article.

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After looking back on how our sport has been turned against itself, at how several incremental and possibly correct decisions have led us to frustrating places, we are left with wondering what can be done?  It's easy to present a long list of complaints , but it's harder to propose solutions.

Should we run backwards?  Should we return four-stars to that lovely true test over miles and miles of four phases with gallopy and flowing courses, despite the fact that we would probably lose the Olympics?  Should we run the sponsors off and reduce the already paltry prize money in the hope of making horsemanship less expensive?  Even if going back to the good old days was practically possible (it isn't), I still wouldn't settle for backtracking because I don't think we need to.  Now, onto the solutions.


Three changes in our sport that are both practical and pretty simple to implement are:

(1) Increased transparency in the form of better communication of governance and other major issues to the eventing public.  Eventing is an intelligent, tightly-knit community of forward thinkers, and most of our leaders are lifetime horsepeople.   This makes transparency a much more realistic possibility in our sport than, say, between the Congress and the American people.  The eventing "powers that be," so to speak, should understand that making the public more aware of how major issues are debated and decided upon might be uncomfortable but will ultimately make the public feel more invested in the outcome and less 'in the dark.'  The next time our sport fundamentally changes, I hope I won't be writing about it several years later and saying "there are multiple opinions and explanations for how this happened..."

Note: I'm not singling out any particular organization, and I'm not even singling out equine governing bodies in general.  I am saying that any time our sport starts to change, there is value in helping the public to understand what changes are happening and why.


(2) Increased leadership by eventing professionals both by getting involved in the governance of eventing and by communicating their insights to the eventing public.  By 'professional,' I don't just mean professional riders, but anyone deeply involved in our sport, including organizers, officials, vets, farriers, etc.  These professionals need to be as involved as possible in our governing organizations, and in the dialogue of eventing.  Three years ago, the professionals might have been able to complain about not having a voice, but not any more.  Almost every professional has a website, certainly everyone has a Facebook, every third professional has a blog, and many pros are starting to write for major websites or magazines.

As an aside, since not everyone has a blog, and because not every media outlet wants to deal with the tough issues, consider this a standing invitation that any professional who wants to write a well-informed and insightful article about a meaningful eventing issue, I will gladly publish it here on Eventing Nation.  With 2,000 visits a day, and over 3,500 unique visitors a week, and our network of friends in the media, close to half the US eventing public will read what you write.  Professionals no longer have any excuse whatsoever for not being heard.

What's so encouraging is that if you speak with them in private, many professionals are well informed about the current eventing issues and they have great ideas about improving our sport.  We just need to get them talking to everyone, which will ultimately take more motivation to reach out than most professionals have displayed thus far, but two things that would help professionals in this endeavor are:

-Better questions and support from us in the media.  If we just keep asking about how awesome the XC course rode or how many dogs they have, then we are part of the problem and not part of the solution.  

-Understanding from the fans, and an appreciation that they are willing to take the risk of making their voice heard, whether or not we agree with their conclusions.  Whether right or wrong, there is a perception among professionals that the few times they have tried to stick their necks out, they have gotten shot down and torn apart.  Dialogue should be intellectually honest and disagree whenever necessary, but it should always be polite and respectful.

(3) A better link between the will of the eventing public and the changes that occur in eventing.  Do you see the progression?  First we need transparency to tell us what is going on, then we need leadership from the professionals to help us decide on the best course of action, and then we need the ability to help that happen. Eventing is a wonderful sport because if you don't know an influential person (which almost everyone does), you certainly know someone who does, and you will see at least 30 influential people at every competition.  Furthermore, local Area organizations, and even the national governing organizations have relatively straightforward steps for joining boards or getting involved in other ways.  Going to a governing convention (the USEA's is in AZ this year) is yet another fantastic way to be immersed in the decision making of eventing.  

On the flip side, the "powers that be" should do everything possible to enfranchise the public and therefore invest them in the resulting change.  A lot of the frustrations and anxieties people are expressing about the changes in our sport would be mitigated if they felt like they had been more involved in the decision making.


In summary, I'm asking the most influential people in eventing to keep us better informed about changes in our sport, I'm asking the professionals to give us their honest and straightforward insights, and I'm asking all of us to make an effort to be more involved in the process of reaching decisions.  These ideas are far from perfect, but the best I can ever hope for is that they stimulate thought and conversation.  I understand that working for positive change is always harder than watching things go wrong and then complaining about them.  But, hope remains if you, like me, are filled with the belief that eventers are an inherently special type of people who can, by toughness, mental instability, and a little luck accomplish great things.  I hope that, as you read this, you sense the many other eventers who are also reading this, and that we all, together, appreciate the great responsibility that lies before us as stewards of our great sport.  Go eventing.

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Isn't Kevin B.'s term ending soon as President of the USEA?

I nominate John!

Great article with solutions for today's problems.

Kudos.

Impressive. Thanks for taking the time to put your insightful thoughts into words and sharing with us.

You ask if we:
"Should we run backwards? Should we return four-stars to that lovely true test over miles and miles of four phases with gallopy and flowing courses, despite the fact that we would probably lose the Olympics?"

Losing the long format for the sake of saving the Olympics is often viewed as that pivotal moment when the sport changed. The problem is that we WILL lose the Olympics. Introducing the short format may have staved off that loss for a few years, but eventing, unless it actually does become a CT with xc fences in the show jump ring, will not be an Olympic sport in 20 years. That was my position when we shortened it up to remain in the Olympics and it remains my opinion. The economics are not there, the land is not there, the support/attention is not there. And our sport is a PR disaster waiting to happen for the Olympics. Deaths and serious injury, for horses and riders, are not unusual and isolated affairs. The increased media attention we need to survive and thrive as an Olympic sport will also be the death of us.

The bottom line being that every change we make to stay in the Olympics will be ultimately fruitless and they are changes that are not good for the sport by the very fact that they are made with staying in the Olympics in mind not the best interest of the sport, its riders and horses. We would have been better off walking away on our terms, and the sport would be better off. Winning Badminton has been and continues to be a bigger coup than winning the Olympics among eventers.

Also: "Understanding from the fans, and an appreciation that they are willing to take the risk of making their voice heard, whether or not we agree with their conclusions."

I agree. Fans could be more understanding. But is that really the biggest issue? For professionals who have not 'arrived', who have not made a team and been welcomed into the fold, is the risk they take in expressing their opinion about issues like course design or safety really the fans? Or is it from other corners like the Chef d'Equipe, fellow riders, the governing bodies? I'm not so sure FANS are really the obstacle between young professionals and full and frank discussion.


I realize that there is a tension between money/horsemanship. I feel like the shortened format has increased this tension, but it existed before. Given the costs and risk and heartbreak in our sport, it would be nice if there was more prize money. I don't know what the answer is.

I completely agree that the professional riders need to speak out more about important issues. Great thoughts John, thanks!

Well said John. Let me throw this idea out for comment.
It seems that there is a persistent theme about the importance of eventing staying in the Olympics for many reasons. However, i agree with Callie that realistically, it's most likely in the cards that in a couple of decades we will be out no matter what hoops we jump through.
Given this, might this not be the time to build up an alternate strategy for our sport that sets different goals? Maybe tear it down to the roots and reboot it?
The other point you make is a great one. It's essential that people start speaking up. As an organizer, something as simple as submitting a competitor evaluation seems to be an insurmountable task - yet there are plenty of ideas for improvement that one hears through the back channels. Perhaps there is a fear of being "blackballed," or there just aren't enough hours in the day. In any case, efforts to communicate need to be made on all sides!

Nicely done, John.
I think Kevin B has made great strides in communicating with the masses. Can more be done? Of course but he set the wheels in motion.
As far as being in the Olympics, I know the UK, Germany, France, Aus, and NZ depend on the national Olympic funds to have a coach, develop, and send teams out into the world. They would have to drastically change their business model if eventing was out.
What killed it was that the riders don't need a LF *** or **** to qualify anymore. I still think we should require everyone moving up to do a LF *, ESPECIALLY the YR's who need that kind of base of horsemanship. I know of a few YR's that have had to make it a necessity in their own mind to be horsemen but there are more that don't. Buy the ride, get the ribbon is their motto.
And yes, I don't know of one pro willing to tell it like it is. Except for one article written by Bruce.

Where are these corners on novice courses? I have been to just about every HT in Areas II and VIII and never seen one of these famous corners.

I've simply never seen a novice course that wasn't totally rideable. If people aren't capable of riding them, then they are not ready for the level.

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John, you have some good points and some delusional ones.

I love the Eventing on ESPN argument. I've heard it so many times. "Who wouldn't want to watch XC on TV it's so amazing and whenever NBC puts it on it does so well."

What people fail to understand is that when it does "well" it is in comparison to other special sports programs on Sunday afternoons. Usual Sunday afternoon sports specials are stuff like the 8 and under girl's softball east coast championships, hilarious celebrity and their dogs agility competitions and golf sillZ challenges. In reality Rolex is not pulling in huge numbers by comparison to any real sporting event.

The next argument that usually follows (thank god you left it out) is that NASCAR did it and Eventing could be the next NASCAR. It's time to get over this idea. NASCAR had a built in audience, it's easy to understand and let's be honest people go to drink beer and hope for a crash or even better to watch their favorite driver take a swing at someone after the race is over. In short: Redneck Crack. NO ONE goes to NASCAR to enjoy a nice day in the sun and watch the talent, they go for the excitement. The thing that pulls people in to NASCAR would never fly in eventing. Can you imagine us getting excited over the crashes? Or what if Ali Springer had slapped Buck with her crop after leaving the ring and losing the lead? It sounds ridiculous and it will never happen.

I think that it is time for Eventing to get over the idea of being a mainstream sport. It's not going to happen. What would draw people to the sport (crashes and drama) are the exact opposite of what eventing is about. Instead Eventing needs to focus on their audience. It's not the mass general public. Sure someone could want to get into eventing, but even the person eventing on the tightest budget in this country is still paying WAY more than someone who can strap on a pair of shoes and try out for the soccer/football/softball team. No matter how 'poor' eventers think they are...the reality is that they are in a better position than 90% of Americans and for all intensive purposes exist in a different world.

You argue that we shouldn't have been so stressed if Eventing stayed in the Olympics. Delusional. The Olympics are the ONE thing that connects Eventing to the rest of the world. World Championships?....They have a World Championships for baton twirling. Badminton? Seriously? Outside of Europe (scratch that outside of England) people assume you are talking about the activity your drunk uncles played with the kids at the family BBQ. Staying in the Olympics was imperative and is essential for up and coming riders to draw in some financial support (both private and corporate).

As far as a solution. For a start I think that Eventing needs to focus on attracting owners away from steeplechase and other horse sports and work to establish eventing as a collegiate sport.

Player Hater is absolutely right. For years the powers that be have tried to make Eventing the next Golf or Tennis...it will never happen. We have an elitist sport that only a few can compete in, its hard to understand the scoring, there are an infinite amount of reasons that Professional Riders will never be making the money that other Professional sports athletes make. And the second you incorporate financial goals with the well being of live animals you get horse racing. We don't, nor ever will have the public following or the sponsorship.

On top of that, have you ever thought what it would be like walking onto an event grounds if you knew NOTHING about the sport. Getting yelled at by jump judges because you were in the way because you didn't understand the galloping lanes. No idea where the food was located because its only in the stabling area. No clue how the dressage is scored or WHERE the scores are, oh, they are by the stabling too. Think about it, it wouldn't be an enjoyable experience.

Secondly, you want transparency then GO TO AN ANNUAL MEETING of the USEF or the USEA. Get involved on the boards, committees etc.. Don't rely on the Chronicle of the Horse chat room for your "insight" or transparency or think your "voice" is being heard there.

Could it be better, absolutely but until riders get out of the barn, off their computers and into committee meetings and involved in their local areas to help make change it will continue to evolve slowly. There are a ton of fabulous ideas and programs that we could get off the ground, particularly at the lower levels that would make our sport flourish but we lack the man power to brainstorm and flush out and make these ideas a reality. Its the riders sport, no matter what level you ride at you can help make it better and I don't mean by posting on the COTH chat room, that is NOT productive.

John - well said.

Okay - so eventing drops out of the Olympics in 20 years: SO WHAT?!!!! We have: the World Equestrian Games, PanAm Games AND what is it now six 4*s/year? The reality is, Eventing is NOT (yet) a mainstream sport...which is why unfortunetely for us, we won't see an amazing XC ride on a Sportscentre Top 10 list...yet. Let's think about several other VERY popular non-mainstream sports NOT in the Olympics: Rugby, Soccer, Cricket...why are said sports NOT in the Olympics...because each of those sports has its own World Cup every 4 years. Why prolong the inevitible..? There is a LOT of talk about proper funding needed to reach that elite International level. Funding needed from eventing being an Olympics sport...Maybe the change starts by taking a look at how those funds are allocated and going from there..?

PlayerHater - I disagree with you completely about your views on the World Cup...come on now, Baton Twirling? That was weak...Change takes time and many small steps. I think the point of what John is trying to say is to make POSITIVE change happen, we need to stick together and be coming to the table with postive action points that can be implemented. You have great thoughts, but you offered no solutions, only very negative opinions which is what the sport needs to be moving away from...it would have been great to hear your solution for making eventing "the Mainstream" as opposed to saying it would 'Never Happen'.

John - if you start a Facebook group titled something a long the lines of "Making Positive Changes to Eventing" - I will be the FIRST to join...

Really when it comes down to it, shouldn't we as eventers (regardless if we are pros or ammies), always be doing what is best for the continued success of our sport? And speaking up about it?

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I'm feeling depressed about this whole conversation, because I know and speak with the "powers that be" and the influential parts of eventing -- and I can tell you, categorically, NONE of them agree that transparency is essential, that decision making should be shared, and that changing the sport to accomodate fans is desirable. We seriously need to stop dreaming about the Olympics, about going back to the long format (at upper levels), and all that other fantasy island stuff. Eventing is under such stress that only drastic change will save it and everyone over 50 involved in this sport needs to be purged or stand up and work to save it. Course design is the FIRST place to start with the chainsaw, and cut out the cancer on the sport .... Right now the true sport is existing in the unrecognized events...the only place left to find smiling riders and happy horses. Toldja I was depressed.

Awww, retread! Buck up little camper!
About eventing being mainstream.
It is!
Truly!
In England.
I worked with a few Londoners that came over here and they know all about eventing. And William FP, Lucinda, etc. And they are total city slickers.
So how'd they do it? Well, both folks said it's because the BBC will ONLY show Burghley and Badminton ALL day on the telly on Saturdays. So there's nothing else to watch.
Therefore, they have to use their brains, figure this whole eventing thing out then they do indeed take a train out to watch these events and drink like madmen and gather around the water jumps to see falls.
And ...
drumroll ...
BET MONEY!
Yup, they bet, not like our state controlled betting parlors. But they definitely have individual betting pools.

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Carrie....where to begin? First off you say I am too negative. Look at my name. Do yourself a favor and you tube chapelle's show player hater club. Probably the funniest skit on what was the funniest show on tv. Basically I try to bring a caustically cynical viewpoint. I know baton twirling is weak. That's why I made the point. World chpionships can be held for anything but what sets eventing apart is that it is in the olympics. Eventing needs to cling to that like grim death or it will become totally irrelevant beyond the horse world.

Soccer is an Olympic sport. Has been for a long time.

Is taking eventing out of the olympics a positive change? How about starting with requiring USeventing to disclose where and how they spend their money they collect from members?

I understand that I didn't point out solutions. I think John made some good points. I was really focused on the eventing out of the olympics idea.

Keep dreaming that you will see eventing in the mainstream. In England it is for exactly the reasons pointed out above. I would add though that horses are ingrained into the European culture in a way that we don't have here.

Just a few quick thoughts. First, I completely agree with LisaB's first comment that Kevin B has done a good job improving transparency. I didn't want my post to become focused on any one organization or leader, but I probably should have mentioned (as I have several times before) that I have been impressed multiple times with Kevin's willingness to explain to folks exactly why the USEA makes certain decisions, even though that explanation might lead to more criticism in the short term. For example, I'm thinking about the paper omnibus discussion at the convention last year. I, for one, will be very sad to see Kevin go.

To PlayerHater's comments (one of my favorite commenters for sure), I would just like to clarify that I said I "would like to see" a great XC ride on Sports Center, not that it's likely right now or that Rolex TV coverage is beloved by the American people, because I totally agree with PlayerHater that NBC Rolex coverage doesn't compete with anything for ratings. If eventing wanted, and if the right forces come together in the US (including much more TV coverage as LisaB points out), I think we could approach the main stream levels that eventing has in England, including big corporate sponsors and perhaps even more public recognition of riders. However, many of the consequences and implications of becoming a mainstream sport are against the "eventing way" and, as PlayerHater suggests, that may not be what we want. I completely agree with PlayerHater that making eventing more of a collegiate sport would be a great step forward any way you look at things.

Also, to clarify, I think that eventing in the Olympics is extremely important for our sport, and as I said, if I was faced with the reality of losing the long format or losing the Olympics, I'd probably chose to lose the long format. The Olympics separate eventing from all the other equestrian sports (aside from dressage and SJ), lead to a great many new riders who have the Olympic dream (watching David win Sydney is one of the biggest reasons I really got into eventing), and the Olympics help with sponsorship and team funding. All that being said, I also agree with Callie, who said that eventing will probably not be an Olympic sport in 20 years. That's a whole different debate, but the folks I talk with feel like eventing is one of the next Olympic sports to get cut as the Olympics looks to add other (more mainstream) sports.

Rugby is also now an Olympic sport and Cricket is on its way to becoming one. Any sport where the WORLD can compete is looked at for inclusion.

Eventing HAS to be an Olympic sport. What little girl ever says "My dream is to ride at the FEI World Equestrian Games one day" - The Olympics is the ONE thing the outside world can relate to. "You event? What is that? Oh, an Olympic sport, cool".

We all know the challenges with remaining an Olympic sport, lack of world participation, land restrictions, volunteer base, cost to ship, house and provide for equine athletes and their entourage. Those are the challenges both at the Olympics and at home that we need to address. How can we make this sport FUN, less regulated, easier to get involved in, cheaper, less land hungry and more identifiable.

Let's get to work!!!

Okay, so the Olympic debate. I keep thinking about what sports are out there that we ONLY watch in the Olympics. Or, don't watch at all. Curling anyone? Hard to understand, goofy to watch but it seems to remain in the Olympics. BUT do they have a separate ice arena? Have to have separate facilities? Nope, they re-use what's already there so the expense isn't there and so it stays off the radar.
I equate our sport to road cycling and triathalons. The elites aren't at the Olympics. They are in the Tour de France and the Iron Man. They continue to be dominant, well-watched sports and the Olympics is a by-product to be inclusive of 'lesser' teams. The Olympic venues CANNOT be as difficult. Why? Because the venues aren't naturally built for those sports. It's not like a flat arena and you race around the track.
We are managing to the lowest common denominator by saying the Olympics is a **** so all other **** must be like that. Aaaahhh, nope! Sorry! I would like for it to be a 2 1/2* myself. Have it be a marketing venue, not the elite competition. Leave that to the true **** (and you TOTALLY got me on the 5*!). It will be fine that we have it as a lower level event. It seems to work for cycling and triathalons!
Or, heck recently with the bobsledding. WOW! Did that hit home. They completely reduced the track after that death. And the main commentator dude was saying that this is an inclusive event with bobsledders that wouldn't have qualified for the big names. So they reduced the track in order to include 'lesser' teams. That's the point.
Whew!
Sorry about that!
Off my soapbox for the next 15 seconds.

as an organizer for a Prelim and below event the biggest challenge the most frustrating thing and one of the reasons why we want to quit every year (23 years this year) - total lack of rider knowledge of what is involved to host an event for them and the extreme lack of volunteers.

%60 of my over 100 volunteers needed to hold a three day competition with 5 courses have never ridden a horse!! And some of these volunteers have been jump judging for over 15 years ( I have about 10 who have judged for the full 23 years of our existence and they have never evented themselves) and can tell most prelim level riders out there the rules better than the damn riders.

If the riders want change and want to see this sport survive than they better step up and get involved on every level of what is required - the politics all the way down to the dressage scribe.
Create discussion, attend the AGM meetings for their Horse Trials group in their state or province. If you dont vote how can you complain!!! Read, participate, GET INVOLVED!! The powers at the higher level are over 50 years old cause the young people wont step up!!

In my opinion it is the riders themselves who are killing this amazing sport.

Eventing as a collegiate sport? To make it more mainstream? Really? Not gonna happen.

Thats not to say that there aren't college teams... there are (and they run the gammut from team penning to dressage). But so many of them are club teams and not official "programs of the athletic association". And of course... that opens the can of worms about how riding a horse isn't a sport (in spite of the recent post about Amy's knee).

Hell, I was on a college rowing team... it was a club sport and was treated like any other club on campus as far as funding went. We had to go to the student body president and make our case for money to haul our boats up to PA for Dad Vail Regatta to KICK THE BUTTS of NCAA-sanctioned, AA-funded crew teams at other schools and bring home medals.

But no dice. The AA didn't see the value of rowing as a school sport, despite the success of our team. They (colleges/AA's) want sports that will draw crowds right off the bat and attract recruits, boosters and sponsors. And that's what we're trying to get for eventing NOW. Spectators and Sponsors. I just don't see eventing "trickling up" from the collegiate level.

(and despite the groceries a defensive lineman can pack away, the cost is likely a drop in the bucket compared to keeping an equine... I'm just sayin')

I am fascinated by this negativity about eventing as a sport. In the UK I am the first to gripe and moan at British Eventing but they do actually listen. We get regular replies on the forum to questions asked, I am a member of the sounding board and when I was doing entries for a 3* and was balloted I spoke to Nick Gauntlett who is on the sports committee and complained that it was ruining the prep for Blenheim and a couple of hours later got the message that the organisers had managed to get the balloted horses in. Every year British Eventing runs regional evenings where they talk about proposed changes and attendees can ask questions. The AGM is still a farce but I am sure it will be worked on when they finally allow postal votes. We compete against pros on an equal footing maybe this stops so much bad feeling? Its just one sport and one we all love.

dont get me wrong.
I love the sport.
I want to see it survive and stay strong. I evented for quite a few years but never got past prelim level and was quite content with that.
I think the sport has been around longer and has more roots in england. I wish our Canadian Eventing would respond so quickly as lec commented. Doesnt happen though.
Some people are great but .....
But it is not broke!!!! It just needs to be fixed and worked on. Unfortunately this takes man power and the will of the people. It is not going to be fixed by one or two dedicated but over worked people. It needs the masses and those are the riders and their family first.

So - Everyone seems to be in agreement that there is a problem. What is the first step (that is actually a possibility) in fixing it? I wish I knew, but I don't... :-(

"So how'd they do it? Well, both folks said it's because the BBC will ONLY show Burghley and Badminton ALL day on the telly on Saturdays. So there's nothing else to watch."

Not so, they show highlights on the Sunday. The XC on the Saturdays is on the red button so as not to interfere with the other programmes.

And as a general point, wow everyone here is super negative at the moment about eventing. I'm also from the UK and hadn't noticed a lack of fun in eventing, so maybe that's why I don't understand what is going on in US eventing to make everyone feel so bad.

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We start with course design. FIX IT. And you will do a big service to the future of the sport.

Fix it - kkkkkaayyy - how do you propose to do that without breaking the bank for every organizer group out there?

And fix what about it exactly? More frangible pins? Do you have any idea what those things cost? Let alone the materials to build the rest of the jump.
Design changes? OK.... that requires re educating the course designers. who does the education? Who organizes those courses? Who pays for them?

One of the biggest problems that we have on the west coast is even getting a dang course designing course on our side of the continent. kid you not! they are allllll back east!! Who is going to fly me out there.

Again we are back to the very annoying hate that it is needed world of MONEY.

The root of all evil. sigh.

I'm in the USA...and while a lot these posts seem Negative...I have to say...I don't see it out side of media and the internet as much. Could the sport be better...of course. Things should always be looked at to improve. And while some folks were focusing on the green unhappy looks of many in the start box...isn't the important thing that most are smiling ear to ear when finished? If you poll most riders at the end of xc...they want to go again. If you aren't a little green and serious looking in the start...you are not taking the risks serious enough!

I'm reading that folks are seeing bad horsemenship...maybe inspired by prize money. Sorry...not seeing this as new. There has always been bad horsemanship...probably for as long as man has taken care of horses. MOST horse owners will commit a mistake at some point that is "bad horsemanship"....some times that is how you learn to be a good horseman. But most of the time they are just mistakes....and most are not publicly known. Some people lack good judgment when eventing....they are also often the same people that lack good judgment in life in general. Some people are stupid..or make stupid mistakes. But that isn't everyone eventing....I wouldn't even say is is many eventers. And there is sometimes the random bad apple. Guess what...this isn't new. It has been like that with eventing since the begining...will be that way in the future...is that way in most other sports and in life in general. We should keep working to improve the sport and improve safety (and remove those bad apples)....but instead of being negative...I notice more positives with eventing now.

I see more REALLY nice horses. I see a lot of better riding....both in dressage, stadium and xc. As whole...the level of horses and the level of riding have really improved. I see improvement in horse management and care that allows a lot of horses to have really long careers....or to comeback from injuries that once might have made them pasture puffs. I see a lot of thought put into course design...and into education. I see better built fences...and safer fences....I see a strong move to make things as safe as possible given the unsafe nature of our sport. I see accesss to better training....Most of all, I see more people involved and having fun as a whole. It isn't as elite of a sport as it once was...but it will never be the sport for everyone.

At the events I've been to here in the US....the vast majority of people seem to be having a lot of fun. Even if we question our sainity a bit when we are green before heading out onto xc....we also know how much fun we and our horses are about to have...

I'm not against discussing and trying to make things better...but it isn't as doom and gloom as some are painting it to be.

I would have to agree Melissa.
The only reason our group of organizers - the same people for the past 23 years - is still out there doing an event is because we are having fun, people are having fun, our BBQ cross-country night party ROCKS and people tell us they had a blast even in the rain. We only event up to the Prelim level but we are having fun. It is why we put in all the work before hand. that and the booze. but lalalala

Do we need some changes - yes - do we need to go as drastic as some say - I personally dont think so.
We need to concentrate more on the little guy and their lower level coaches and creating safer better riders.
More aware of the sport riders. More hands on.
Back yard ponies RULE!
We need to say thank you more often.
We need to tell the organizers we had fun or they just wont know.
We need to take a hard look at the "safety" standard and the design layout and say - maybe we are going over board and almost creating problems where we didnt have them before. I just sent of a cheque for over 1k for 40 break away cups in stadium!!! Stadium!!! The poles fall down people!!

I am a firm believe that competition is healthy. That the strive to improve and be better is very healthy. It creates a better child who will become a better adult in the competitive work place competition. Learning to win and lose is part of growing up. Accidents happen. Sometimes falling off my horse taught me the best lesson even when it hurt - I usually didnt make the same mistake twice.
Dont take that competitive spirit away.

I personally like that coaches are out teaching the baby levels how to count strides and ride a line. Teach them young. When they get to training level I wont be cringing then. Teach them how to gallop a pace - that is called safety. They have to learn at some point - who cares if it is at the baby level where it doesnt really matter. We want those kids to move up and be our olympic champions 15 years down the road so they better have those basics drilled into them young.

John,
I am HIGHLY impressed with this article. Never before have I read such an accurate summary of how the wheels started coming off. That being said, I think part of the solution needs to include some empathy on the part of eventing professionals for their AA clients. While I am classified as a "pro" because I teach up/downs, my skills and my heart lie with the AA. I cannot tell you how often I get into a debate with my trainers who are on the "short list" as to what makes the sport good for me as opposed to good for them.
Chris

I'm going to disagree that we "need" more spectators, more media, and more prize money.

Our sport wasn't broken before without all those things.

As Gry2yng says, there are different goals for making the sport good for pro riders versus making it good for amateurs. I don't think having to kowtow even more to the Olympics, to sponsors (and trickle-down, TV audiences), in course design and fence design, as well as rule changes in the sport, will benefit amateur riders in any way. The tail is wagging the dog here.

I would be sad if Eventing were no longer in the Olympics, but not as sad as I will be losing the essence of my favourite sport for ever. It seems to be going that way.

There are some great pros out there who do volunteer work, who have run events, and who know what is involved in making this sport happen. However it irks me to hear from those who seem to think eventing is here to earn *them* a living, that there isn't enough prize money, and every Young Rider saying they are going to the Olympics and having a fund raiser for it.

If anyone "deserves" the make a little money from this sport, I'd say it's the land owners and organizers. Without them, we would have no eventing. Next in line should be the volunteers. Without them, we'd have no eventing. (It's not unusual as another poster noted that 60% have never even ridden in an event!!)

I think eventing is quickly getting to a point of not being self-sustaining, and expect to see a decline as more organizers close shop for good, as volunteers get burnt out, as more amateurs get shut out due to "destination events" which have a $500 entry fee because that is how you put on a destination event. People seem to be shocked when their local event stops running... even though they haven't bothered to enter it or volunteer for it for the last 5 years because they have chosen to drive 15 hours to the destination event instead. Then they complain that things are just so expensive and they couldn't afford any more shows this year and that's why they didn't do the local event.

As for solutions - well I think "eventing" is going back to the grassroots for those of us who are getting fed up. I am trying to organize a very small local derby this summer. I hope 15 people show up. Everyone will put $5 in the pot and winner takes all (yep, there's your prize money!). It shouldn't take longer than 3 hours for about 3 levels, then we are going to have a BBQ and everyone is going to have a GREAT time.

Maybe later in the fall we will invite our regional hunt pack to come up and we will ride across country and enjoy ourselves.

All,

Here's a sliver of light. Groton House in MA runs a spring and fall classic, unsanctioned events for elem and beg nov. Last spring it poured the entire day. EVERYONE showed up, had a great time and left with smiles on their faces. How do I know. I was the parking lot volunteer. Yup the volunteers also showed up in the freezing rain. Soo..maybe part of the solution is in reaching young kids and encouraging pony club and all that stuff. Go eventing!

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I agree with Gry2yng and couldn't disagree more with the idea that we need to get the professionals more involved.

The ULRs are what are hurting this sport. This insane, ride eight horses at every event, shut up you stupid amateur and just pay us money and we might deign to give you an autograph that organizations like PRO are espousing will ruin it forever. The heart of this sport is the volunteer, the pull your fieldhunter out and go compete, the jack of all trades go out and kick around a course, the grab a beer with brand new friends because you all just had a ball on an XC course. It's not the fancy schmancy rigs and sponsor get ups and way too busy to volunteer that we're seeing from alot of these professionals. Heck, organizations like PRO would like nothing better than to have their own competitions, without the scrubby amateurs and juniors messing up their showring.

What makes this sport great was the sense of community, in large part because we used to know our horses weren't replaceable. Now, it's "that one won't jump, or this one won't win the dressage, or that one takes a rail" and "get another one." Find some sucker of a sponsor to pay you thousands every month and hope like hell you can keep moving the shells forward.

The heart of the sport is at the smaller events, the local ones, with kids on ponies and some phenomenal riders just having fun with their horses. It's not on this bastardized hunters-over-semi-solid-fences that the "ULRs" seem to want.

I agree KevinB has done an outstanding job of communicating about the sport, as has USEA. USEF/FEI may be their own black hole of information loss, but the volunteer leadership of USEA and the hundreds of people who spend hours volunteering time and talent to keep this sport running aren't participating in some grand conspiracy to keep things silent - they are all approachable, their information is on the website, and any one of them would be happy to chat with any member about the sport. These are people who love the sport and spend thousands of hours trying to improve it and keep it going every year.

JustanAmmie,
I'm curious. What regional area are you from? So, here's a little experience I had. We're probably moving from the mecca of eventing land (VA) to NM. Yes, I'm completely nuts. Anyway, I visited a couple of barns (stables? ranches? We are out west, ya know). One outfit was totally in tune to what I was used to. Had their poop together and was highly impressed.
The other one, the people are strictly from out west, never came out east to do w/s or competing or anything. Just stayed out west. Which is awesome because they did reach the upper levels. Anyway, they kinda gave me the impression that indeed us out east are all about competing and money and getting a slew of horses. And that we didn't know each other at all and we don't have each other's backs. Like we are too huge to know each other.
Well, I'll tell ya, if I forgot a girth, I could probably go up to any one of those huge rigs loaded with sponsorship stickers and ask for a girth. No questions or smirking. They are, for the most part, gracious and understanding.
Do I like that someone is a factory of horses, riding 8 at a time? Uh, no. I think you lose that relationship with the individual horse. And you have to be picky about the type of horse that can actually handle that. Not a lot of horses can deal with it, they need more one on one time.
BUT, if we have a few staunch standby's that have this slew of horses, we can count on them for the team. I think what we lack are the folks that have 1, maybe 2 phenomenal horses that can really shine. The usef seems to always push for the factories. You MUST have more than 1 horse in order to make the team. And they will NOT choose you unless you do. No matter how good you are. I've heard this on more than one occasion from folks that should rightly be considered.

Hey John

I love your insight -but I think that I may love the Guard Llamas posting equally or more!
:-)

First of all, I'd like to compliment John on how well he hit the nail on the head with this article.
I'm a 15 year old student who is ready to break into eventing, after my horse had a 22.82% right front suspensory tear last year and is now back in work. We are inching towards Novice as of now. My trainer is a Classical rider, and therefore that's the way I've been taught and now how I think. I would love to see eventing return to it's full glory, because I am in this for the benefit of the horse and rider's safety. I feel that the short format is actually hurting horses and riders instead of "saving them from the long format". Before I get too far into my opinions, since this article captures almost all of them, I'd like to ask if I could use this for a paper I am currently writing for school. I plan on later sending it to the USEA and/or publish here, because I think I read in this article that you are open to people's articles and opinions? I might be wrong! (:
Anyways, I just want eventing to return to the sport it was before, the military sport that somehow turned into this mess today.
Thank you,
Lindsey M.

I just can't believe that a chief test driver from Lexus crashed and died in the LFA. The accident doesn't give them the attention that they need right now, but I'm sure he was not traveling at a slow speed.

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